Alistair Brownlee gives Ellen and Richard a real insight into life as a triathlete. He won gold in Rio and London and has a whole sackful of other medals at World, European and Commonwealth level.
There's his brutal training schedule, his and his obvious passion for the sport. He talks about the pressures of London 2012, the hell of a bad injury just before the Games and the joy of gold.
Alistair reveals he's aiming to be in Tokyo and has his sights set on the up and coming qualifying events....but after Tokyo he plans to move in to the much longer distance Ironman events.
He talks about the High Performance mindset and credits his parents, a teacher, his coaches and his colleagues for getting him to where he is. He says endurance sport is about doing the simple things right over and over again.
We cover upbringing, training, inspiration, resilience and goals - all the factors needed to make a champion.
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Ellen White is an England football. Richard Whitehead is a double Paralympic gold medal winner